Where are people getting this Lord of the Rings-ass idea? Russia doesn’t want to absorb Ukraine because
A) They do not want to be responsible for tamping down decades of Banderite insurgencies, and
B) Doing so would mean that they now share a vulnerable border with a NATO member which is, and I cannot stress this enough, most of the reason they went into Ukraine in the first place.
What they actually want is a buffer zone in the form of a demilitarized Ukraine. The Donbas Republics have voted to join the Russian Federation, so they’re not going back to Ukranian control, but western Ukraine is far more strategically beneficial to them as a rump state.
Did you read anything I said? They do not want to be responsible for dealing with the shambles that Ukraine has become. It benefits them far more to let that be Europe’s burden
It doesn’t matter what the Ukranian government wants or doesnt want, they’ve lost the war. If you don’t like it, take it up with the nazis in charge or the Americans who put them there in the 2014 Maidan coup and told them they could win. The Ukranian people overwhelmingly want peace. There were so many offramps before this point, and the US puppet government refused all of them, so now here we are learning an object lesson in why diplomacy is preferable to belligerence.
You have an eleven year old’s idea of how and why wars happen, and a fourteen year old’s habit of retreating to moody sarcasm when you realize you’re out of your depth in an argument.
It’s actually the exact opposite. It is the Ukrainian Nazis who think and behave exactly like the Zionists, up to and including their systematic use of torture, their brutal execution of captives and civilians “sympathetic to the enemy”, and their penchant for assassinations and terrorist attacks on civilians.
It is not a coincidence that they openly say that they want to turn Ukraine into a “larger Israel”. Or that they help Zionist backed terrorists in Syria and the Sahel.
It is these Banderite fascists, who have illegally seized control of Ukraine and now brutally repress the population, who have a fanatical ethnic hatred of Russians and who want to ethnically cleanse Ukraine of everything Russian like the Israelis want to do to Palestinians.
The Russians don’t and have never reciprocated this hatred. They consider the Ukrainians their brothers. The liberated territories are full of Ukrainians who now live as equal citizens of Russia. There are millions of Ukrainian refugees who chose to go to Russia.
If and when Russia completely absorbs Ukraine, the Ukrainians will still be living on their land, just as peacefully as any of the other 150+ ethnic minorities in the Russian Federation. The same cannot be said of the Palestinians and their stolen land.
The Kiev regime is Israel. The ethnic Russian people of the Donbass are the Palestinians. Only unlike the Palestinians they were lucky enough to have a neighboring country willing to step in to protect them and liberate them from the genocidal Western-backed fascists.
Russia is doing in Ukraine what the collective Arab world should be doing in Palestine: eradicating a Nazi regime.
When Russia kills civilians >:(
When Le epic wholesome Ukraine does it :)
Russia could stop this all by stopping the invasion tbh.
The Kiev regime could stop all this by accepting Russia’s demands.
Russia stops the invasion, nothing changes for Russia. Ukraine surrenders, no more Ukraine.
Where are people getting this Lord of the Rings-ass idea? Russia doesn’t want to absorb Ukraine because
A) They do not want to be responsible for tamping down decades of Banderite insurgencies, and
B) Doing so would mean that they now share a vulnerable border with a NATO member which is, and I cannot stress this enough, most of the reason they went into Ukraine in the first place.
What they actually want is a buffer zone in the form of a demilitarized Ukraine. The Donbas Republics have voted to join the Russian Federation, so they’re not going back to Ukranian control, but western Ukraine is far more strategically beneficial to them as a rump state.
“Nah they don’t want to take over, they just want to make it into a weak country they totally control”
Lmao that’s great I wonder why Ukraine doesn’t go for that
Did you read anything I said? They do not want to be responsible for dealing with the shambles that Ukraine has become. It benefits them far more to let that be Europe’s burden
It doesn’t matter what the Ukranian government wants or doesnt want, they’ve lost the war. If you don’t like it, take it up with the nazis in charge or the Americans who put them there in the 2014 Maidan coup and told them they could win. The Ukranian people overwhelmingly want peace. There were so many offramps before this point, and the US puppet government refused all of them, so now here we are learning an object lesson in why diplomacy is preferable to belligerence.
Tsundere Russia, it’s not like it even wants to control Ukraine, baka.
You have an eleven year old’s idea of how and why wars happen, and a fourteen year old’s habit of retreating to moody sarcasm when you realize you’re out of your depth in an argument.
If the war keeps going there will be no more Ukraine. Peace now on Russia’s terms is the only way to preserve it.
Fucking grim what Russia is doing. It’s like Israel to Palestine.
It’s actually the exact opposite. It is the Ukrainian Nazis who think and behave exactly like the Zionists, up to and including their systematic use of torture, their brutal execution of captives and civilians “sympathetic to the enemy”, and their penchant for assassinations and terrorist attacks on civilians.
It is not a coincidence that they openly say that they want to turn Ukraine into a “larger Israel”. Or that they help Zionist backed terrorists in Syria and the Sahel.
It is these Banderite fascists, who have illegally seized control of Ukraine and now brutally repress the population, who have a fanatical ethnic hatred of Russians and who want to ethnically cleanse Ukraine of everything Russian like the Israelis want to do to Palestinians.
The Russians don’t and have never reciprocated this hatred. They consider the Ukrainians their brothers. The liberated territories are full of Ukrainians who now live as equal citizens of Russia. There are millions of Ukrainian refugees who chose to go to Russia.
If and when Russia completely absorbs Ukraine, the Ukrainians will still be living on their land, just as peacefully as any of the other 150+ ethnic minorities in the Russian Federation. The same cannot be said of the Palestinians and their stolen land.
The Kiev regime is Israel. The ethnic Russian people of the Donbass are the Palestinians. Only unlike the Palestinians they were lucky enough to have a neighboring country willing to step in to protect them and liberate them from the genocidal Western-backed fascists.
Russia is doing in Ukraine what the collective Arab world should be doing in Palestine: eradicating a Nazi regime.
Ukraine and Israel are allies
I’m not sure you got the comparison…
I did it’s just a nonsensical comparison that borders on genocide denial
Don’t engage with trolls or bad faith arguments.